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Danzo Shimura - Naruto Shippuden Episode 211 Reaction
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Danzo allied with Hanzo which basically secured Hanzo's act of treachery would have edge over the old Akatsuki.
It doesn't matter what would have happened if the frog succeeded, I'm talking about Danzo's intentions, he'd let the whole village be mopped down, everyone killed and him and his foundation hiding while also pretending all they do is for the Leaf. Also there are many hypothetical situations on what if Naruto came earlier: Pain wouldn't have blown the whole village which means lots of people would have been prepared to fight, Tsunade would be in better shape or maybe the toad would have still insisted to train Naruto until they finish their training. In any case, Naruto spent most of his training perfecting the sage mode while sitting still without the oil, which was a waste of time in the current situation because he used the oil along with clones to replenish his sage mode in his fight against Pain.
It's just Danzo responsible for the Uchiha massacre and you know full well why I can't tell you why the others have much less responsibility for it, because of spoilers.
Keeping Naruto imprisoned isn't the most reasonable game plan in the long run. They've already mentioned that if Naruto changes places it would be harder for them to find him, but I guess you don't watch the show.
Danzo was steps ahead of betraying everyone else in the Kage summit. Everyone was ready to fight the criminal, while Danzo had already planned his escape.
It doesn't matter what would have happened if the frog succeeded, I'm talking about Danzo's intentions, he'd let the whole village be mopped down, everyone killed and him and his foundation hiding while also pretending all they do is for the Leaf. Also there are many hypothetical situations on what if Naruto came earlier: Pain wouldn't have blown the whole village which means lots of people would have been prepared to fight, Tsunade would be in better shape or maybe the toad would have still insisted to train Naruto until they finish their training. In any case, Naruto spent most of his training perfecting the sage mode while sitting still without the oil, which was a waste of time in the current situation because he used the oil along with clones to replenish his sage mode in his fight against Pain.
It's just Danzo responsible for the Uchiha massacre and you know full well why I can't tell you why the others have much less responsibility for it, because of spoilers.
Keeping Naruto imprisoned isn't the most reasonable game plan in the long run. They've already mentioned that if Naruto changes places it would be harder for them to find him, but I guess you don't watch the show.
Danzo was steps ahead of betraying everyone else in the Kage summit. Everyone was ready to fight the criminal, while Danzo had already planned his escape.
You clearly dont understand anything. Yes he did those things, but he honestly thought it was for the good of the leaf. With the Uchiha massacre he only had Itachi do it because the Uchiha were literally about to attack the leaf for power. He didn't want Naruto out in the open where he could get captured rather easily. If Itachi wanted to he could've captured him before he fought Sauske. During the 5 Kage summit he was really the only decent choice to lead. Garra was WAY to young to lead a force that big. The Raikage was just a pissed of dude who was ready to punch anyone who didn't agree with him. The little old man couldn't be completely trusted because he used the Akatsuki. And finally with the hidden mist village, they already were controlled by the Akatsuki so whsts say thet couldn't do it again. EVERYTHING that Danzo did was for the betterment for the leaf. And if your to dense to see that maybe you should rewatch Naruto.
Don't forget sasuke when he fight killer bee he was worried about his team as much as him self and more+he remembered team 7 so it's not really that he forgot him he didn't betray them he said from the beginning i collect a team and members for one goal to kill otachi after that to destroy the village
It's like the akatsuki i don't want to spoit to suzy what will happen but if one of the alatsuki got by others any member can kill him and even if he can't be used(useless) same think like kakuzu with every team mate itachi(spoiler) deidara and more
It's like the akatsuki i don't want to spoit to suzy what will happen but if one of the alatsuki got by others any member can kill him and even if he can't be used(useless) same think like kakuzu with every team mate itachi(spoiler) deidara and more
I know all that but it feels like a contradiction. Yeah he assembled his team for his original goal to kill Itachi, but if he actually cared about them like he showed in the KillerBee battle , how could he just do a 180 and leave them to die and willing kill Karin if necessary just to take out Danzo? He could have found another way to take out Danzo without putting Karin in harm's way, and he could have at least been pissed off or upset that he couldn't save Jugo and Suigetsu but he didn't care at all, it was just for a brief moment in that KillerBee fight that he saw Team 7 in his new team but that effect didn't last long.
No one understands sasuke and its really sad and pathetic, Sasuke has 3 main plot points that makes him how he is now, the death of his family as a chilled is reason enough for half of the shit his done, he was fucking 7 years old, people break and go insane for less, then his brothers story flied his world upside down.... "but people say why does he want to kill everyone and not just the elders" , well my chilled beside his emotional state and mind being used for the most intense game of ping pong ever, its all in his blood line and in his eyes Literally, if your a real fan u understand what I means, because we cant talk about that its spoilers that no one seams to understand btw
if your a real fan you can answer this question,
how does an Uchiha develop the sharingan in the first place?
not to mention the mangekyo sharingan?
why the fuck do you thing Kakashi can use his sharingan in the first place?
you think it was just a simple transfer with no pre-requisite's
and then theirs the 3rd reason why sasuke is how he is but that's omega scale spoilers its almost at the end of the show
don't get me wrong sasukes crimes are real but then we need to get in the mid set of Naruto and jiraiya to find out why they cant kill him
if your a real fan you can answer this question,
how does an Uchiha develop the sharingan in the first place?
not to mention the mangekyo sharingan?
why the fuck do you thing Kakashi can use his sharingan in the first place?
you think it was just a simple transfer with no pre-requisite's
and then theirs the 3rd reason why sasuke is how he is but that's omega scale spoilers its almost at the end of the show
don't get me wrong sasukes crimes are real but then we need to get in the mid set of Naruto and jiraiya to find out why they cant kill him
Anybody who remembers important details and pays attention to the story can easily answer any of those questions you put out. Understanding the cycle of hatred means you should understand why Naruto doesn't want to kill Sasuke. Just from a basic look at it, Sasuke is his best friend who he sees has lost himself to hatred and Naruto wants to save him from that cycle even if he has to be the one to bear it all. Understanding Sasuke's perspective isn't hard at all.
Well if you can see the thing's in sasuke way
His brother become a monster and slaughter all the clan and his family and make sasuke see that thousand and thousand of times in his very young age (7)
And just before he know how much his father care about him
And he saw that happen again when the 3 hokage die and itach come he made him watch every think thousands time's i think he would do anything to kill his brother who cares about friendship it's my brother there bro
And after he killed him he haven't even know of he fell happy or sad and just after the battle he know all th truth and the suffer of his familly and his brother and him was made by the village he care about it
More than that not only the elders who cause that the elders killed the uchiha but it was a long story all the elders clan made the uchiha go to outside the village and watch them 24 hours i agree the children has nothing to do but the parents has a lot they think that the uchiha os not a part of the village and they forget everything begin with the senju and the uchiha more than that even if he will not sick vengeance on the village who would he return and become a part of a village who kill you're clan and make you suffer and you're entire clan and familly many times more than that protect it no one will want that don't tell me it's easy no it's impossible and sasuke haven't do anything bad he kill orochimaru bad guy deidara another bad guy itachi who suppose to be a bad guy
The only think he did is to try to kill killer be and he is alive so nothink bad from sasuke it's the opposite he is the real hero but no they consider him a criminal just because he don't want to live in the village who cause you're clan death and brother suffer how is this fair
They ahould be the criminal not sasuke because they support danzo the most bad guy in this show if it wasn't sasuke who kill him he would take the world but no they will consider sasuke more villain after this because the good guy ia danzo not him how is this fair ?
The bad become good and the good become bad i support sasuke 100%
His brother become a monster and slaughter all the clan and his family and make sasuke see that thousand and thousand of times in his very young age (7)
And just before he know how much his father care about him
And he saw that happen again when the 3 hokage die and itach come he made him watch every think thousands time's i think he would do anything to kill his brother who cares about friendship it's my brother there bro
And after he killed him he haven't even know of he fell happy or sad and just after the battle he know all th truth and the suffer of his familly and his brother and him was made by the village he care about it
More than that not only the elders who cause that the elders killed the uchiha but it was a long story all the elders clan made the uchiha go to outside the village and watch them 24 hours i agree the children has nothing to do but the parents has a lot they think that the uchiha os not a part of the village and they forget everything begin with the senju and the uchiha more than that even if he will not sick vengeance on the village who would he return and become a part of a village who kill you're clan and make you suffer and you're entire clan and familly many times more than that protect it no one will want that don't tell me it's easy no it's impossible and sasuke haven't do anything bad he kill orochimaru bad guy deidara another bad guy itachi who suppose to be a bad guy
The only think he did is to try to kill killer be and he is alive so nothink bad from sasuke it's the opposite he is the real hero but no they consider him a criminal just because he don't want to live in the village who cause you're clan death and brother suffer how is this fair
They ahould be the criminal not sasuke because they support danzo the most bad guy in this show if it wasn't sasuke who kill him he would take the world but no they will consider sasuke more villain after this because the good guy ia danzo not him how is this fair ?
The bad become good and the good become bad i support sasuke 100%
You only "support" Sasuke because of him being a character in a storyline. You understand his character. Good for you. Though, what if you were in Naruto's shoes? Does Naruto support Sasuke in what he does? No. That's why he's been relentlessly chasing after him, for a good 3 and a half years, now.
This is a serous problem with shonen is some authors when they are not sure how to resolve stories with a paticular character or make that specific character relevent any more, they kill them off or write them out of the story just like orochimaru. This is something you will absolutly not see happen with a show like one piece. I think kishi could have added alot more to danzo's character, he was a key anti-villian (yes anti-villian) in the story which conflicted with the hokage's ideal's who wanted diplomatic relations and peace but not everything can be solved in this manner. Danzo always wanted what was best for the village of konoha and it was his top priority to create a balanced shinobi infastructure with rules and consequences of breaking those rules. Some people look at him like he's a villian of the series because of his actions but he really wasn't. He was a complex indivdual with a different way about doing things to protect the shinobi world and the ninja system. Were his methods immoral, perhaps? I think people get so caught up in thinking sasuske is a great character and a good character because he's one of the mains and was introduced like so, but everything that he has done is with sinister intent and evil and all he cares bout is konoho's destruction. He's like an emotional uncontrollable obstacle threatening the world because he has no idea of his own existance. Do you think that is stable? Would you allow a monster like that to be set free. He's no better then one of the akatsuki members and he's commited terrible crimes. Sasuske is indeed a problem and he needs to be stopped and this is obvously what danzo saw and even more so about the history and cursed uchiha clan. Some times you need to take a carefull look and see things from a different point of view. I hate the fact that kishi ended danzo's presence in the story just like that, he could have added so many different elements to the story moving forward. But alas this was the end result and like most fans probably thought, he deserved alot more.
i'd rather see characters dying as long as it's done right than everyone alive at the end of the series as it gives me at least some sort of reality and (i can't find the right words for it but this one might be similar) that feeling of emotional attachment? the drama maybe? the joy ride of emotion? i really can't find the right word for it. the thing is anime is not real but connecting to it in a realistic way is much more meaningful. kinda like saying "it's not just an anime. it's much more" in a way if you get my drift which is what naruto is for me. i have never said that in an anime except naruto and i have watched a ton of anime including one piece since 90s. it has a lot of life lessons too. not the life lessons you get even if your eyes are closed (meaning, power of friendship and similar stuff). a life lesson deeper that is more mature where you can't really learn as a child. but that's about it. i may be biased but who isn't.
sasuke was forced to walk that path. He'd be wrong for being willing to take his revenge out on everyone, but Danzo is the only leaf ninja he's responsible for plus some samurai and akatsuki which Naruto and the Hokage(s) have no problem pardoning him for.
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